#483 – The Mail-Right Podcast Show: 6 Things You Need to Stop Doing as a Realtor in 2025

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6 Things You Need to Stop Doing as a Realtor in 2025

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#1 – Sending out boring and poor content newsletters.

a – Deal of the week

b – Local market reports

c – Local News

#2 – Posting the wrong content on social media (Quality)

#3 – Checking in with people the right way (Purpose)

#4 – Not having CRM and not using the DTD2 system

Use the DTD2 system

The DTD2 system, short for “Doing the Database Two”, is a contact management approach developed to help real estate agents consistently connect with their database. It involves categorizing contacts by the first letter of their last name and then systematically reaching out to two-letter groups each week. This ensures consistent contact with everyone in the database, typically within a 13-week cycle.

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#5 – Not expanding your local network

#6 – Writing client questions and then also answering them online using social media

Episode Full Show Notes

[00:00:06.540] – Robert Newman

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Mail-Right podcast. Today’s episode is number 483. And we’ve got a topic coming in fast for you, which is There’s six things you should stop doing as a realtor in 2025. One of the things you should stop doing is not commenting or sharing our podcast because we are one of the top 100 real estate podcasts that exist I’m absolutely certain that your friends, your coworkers, and anybody that’s even vaguely related to real estate will get some value out of listening to John and I because we are, after all, masters of the universe, know it all about everything related to real estate marketing and the people that you should bank your entire career on. All right, with that little piece of sarcasm, which you can thank John for setting the tone before we turned on the microphone.

[00:01:12.560] – Jonathan Denwood

I got to give you some pushback. You’re so dominant that I had to give you some pushback at all.

[00:01:23.340] – Robert Newman

I’ve been told things like this before. All right, John, go ahead and introduce everybody. Among many other things, John is not a man you can push around. So explain who you are and what you do, and why you are the man that you are.

[00:01:43.500] – Jonathan Denwood

I’ll call that we can, I’d have no idea myself there, Rob. That’s very telling, isn’t it? But thanks for the intro, Rob. Basically, I’m the joint founder of Mail-Right.com. com. We’re a great CRM, and we’ve just introduced Rob. We can build your website in front of you using AI technology. If you want your website built in front of you with one of my success team members, we can do it and also show you everything else that the Mail-Right platform has to offer. Back over to you, Rob.

[00:02:22.540] – Robert Newman

That’s fascinating. That’s actually something I may want to ask a question about sometimes, too.

[00:02:28.400] – Jonathan Denwood

All right. He’s waken He’s woken up, folks. He was-Oh, barely.

[00:02:32.940] – Robert Newman

Today is one of those days I had to start at 07 00 AM, which we’ll explain both the dominance and the grumpiness all at the same time.

[00:02:39.220] – Jonathan Denwood

Oh, that’s really early for you. He’s a night owl, this guy. He’s up all night.

[00:02:43.500] – Robert Newman

Yeah, it was a couple of hours of sleep is what that means for me. All right, so here’s the first thing on the list, which is we’ve talked about this before. I’m going to talk about it again, and I’m going to lead into the subject, really, really hot because I’ve got a very small candle today. One of the things that drives me crazy is when I’m opening up real estate, which John probably is, too, but I’m on about 30 or 40 realtor email lists. So this hits home when you add this subject to our list because I am legitimately a person who receives probably more- That’s probably one of them. Yeah. Hold on one second. I’m so sorry. Let me have to edit this. John, can you hit the pause button? Yeah, sure. I’m so sorry. Hey, this is Robert. Hello. Hey, Megan. Hey, Megan. Hey, I’m just wondering if you’re coming on. I have a schedule for two, or if there was. What do you mean you have a schedule for two? Let me look at my calendar. I’ve got a meeting with Hamilton Selway at 3 00. Wait, no, wait, that’s next week.

[00:03:58.460] – Robert Newman

Let me look at today. Megan, I apologize. You didn’t make it into my primary calendar. We had a call scheduled for 2 00 today? I want to make sure I’m talking to the right person. Who is this, actually? This is Robert Newman. I think I have the wrong number. I apologize. Are you supposed to be meeting with Inbound REN? I’m not looking for Robert. I think I have the wrong number. Okay, copy you. Thanks, Megan. All right, bye. Okay, I am so sorry. Can you edit all that out?

[00:04:41.660] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, I’ll take it down from the live YouTube, and we can edit the podcast.

[00:04:48.680] – Robert Newman

I am so sorry, John.

[00:04:50.940] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, can we start from the beginning? That’d be the easiest. We start from the beginning. So do your countdown, and like I say, it’s 483.

[00:05:02.200] – Robert Newman

Three, two, one. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the MailRight podcast. Today’s episode is number 483, and we are going to talk about six things you’d stop doing as a realtor in 2025. First on the list is something I’m super hot about. But before we get into that, ladies and gentlemen, you probably know this if you’ve been listening to the show recently, but we are one of the top real estate podcasts in the world. You know what we’d like you to stop doing as a realtor? Stop not sharing our show. Please share it, comment on it. There are thousands of you that listen to the show and have commented on other podcasting platforms, which John and I never see. We never see it. What we would like you to do is to share it with some friends and email either robert@inboundrim. Com or Jonathan. Is it John or Jonathan?

[00:05:59.640] – Jonathan Denwood

It’s It’s Jonathan.

[00:06:00.920] – Robert Newman

Jonathan, J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N@mail-right. Com. Let us know what you think because we don’t see your comments. Then leave us a comment and like the show, and share the show on the platform you’re listening to. We would greatly appreciate it. Now, without any further ado, my fearless, dominant dating partner is Jonathan. We’d go ahead and introduce ourselves, John, because I’m going more dominant your way. Introduce yourself right now.

[00:06:33.900] – Jonathan Denwood

I don’t know what you’ve been taking today, but I wish I had some of it. That’s all I got to say. I’m the joint founder of Mel-right. Com. We are CRM and a lot more, and we just got a new technology. Basically, we can use AI to build your website on one of our onboarding calls, and we can build the whole website in front of you and put content in. So it makes the whole process of getting your website live and getting the leads that you’re looking for really a lot quicker. Back over to you, Rob.

[00:07:11.960] – Robert Newman

All righty. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to talk about bad content. That’s our first thing on our list, bad email content. Guess what? This guy, the guy that is talking to you right now through whatever you’re listening to, gets probably more email content from realtors than just about anybody. I’m on over 40 mailing lists as I examine content for clients that I’ve either consulted with currently or consulted with in the past, and about 100 other reasons that have put me on about 40 of these lists over the years. Now, if I’m on the list, most of the time these people are doing higher efforts. But of those 40 people, 20 probably send me what’s like canned emails and how or why anybody would ever open them is beyond me. Let’s a pushed forward email from coming in from an IDX provider or an MLS or something like that. This content is less. It does the exact opposite. Not only does it not engage your audience or create some meaningful connection between you and your audience, it actually does the opposite, gets you off their mailing list, makes them dislike your marketing efforts, disapprove of you as a human being, in some cases, depending on how strongly they feel about junk email, and for sure, does not accomplish the mission of getting you some phone call.

[00:08:38.980] – Robert Newman

That’s what I’ve got to say about this subject right now, John. How about you?

[00:08:42.480] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, I’m really influenced with Jimmy Burgess and his YouTube channel because he really talks a lot about newsletters and what you can do, what you should put in them. He’s got some really basic ideas, but He’s totally spot on. He’s one of my more favorable. I really like his YouTube channel, and he’s been on the show a couple of times. I have to try and get him to come back. But he gives a lot of advice on how to avoid what you’ve outlined, Rob, and some of the stuff he talks about is like, you’re a real estate agent, so do a real deal of the week, something you’ve seen on the that you really think is a good deal. Talk about it, why you feel it’s a good deal. Market report, but not one that you are adding some value to, not some caned report. What’s really going on in the market that month or last month, and what you think, how it’s going to affect this month, whatever. Lastly, local news. Show that you know what’s going on, that you are in the community and promoting other people’s events, and that is a great way to build great goodwill, basically.

[00:10:18.630] – Jonathan Denwood

That’s what Jimmy talks about on his YouTube channel, Robert. I think they’re really great basic ideas, but so many agents, like you said, they’re not doing the basics, really, are they, Robert?

[00:10:35.220] – Robert Newman

Not even close. I think that what Jimmy is trying to say, or at least here’s what I’ve oftentimes said to people when I’ve been a sales manager or a leader of very, very large groups of salespeople. I’ve always said, Hey, at a certain point, we all have to consider how a high tide raises all ships. If there’s a profession that has a terrible overall reputation for email marketing, it’s going to be real estate. Another thing that realtors are getting really creamed by in terms of a bad reputation is texting. Because you egregiously text during the sales process. Many marketing companies out there leverage AI text, and when it goes off the rails, it goes off the rails to the tune of 3, 4, 5, 6,000 experiences for different people. It very quickly eliminates large sections of the population that are ever going to sign up for lead generation for realtors. So email marketing and texting. You have to understand that if somebody gets really burned by the experience of signing up for these things, they’re unlikely to do it again in the future. Very similar to, I won’t walk back onto a car lot, ever.

[00:11:49.220] – Robert Newman

I’ve just had too many bad high pressure experiences with salespeople there. I’m never going again. They’ve ruined it for me entirely. I will get on the phone, I will have a conversation I’ll have my car delivered. That’s it. That’s all they ever get. All right. Number two, here’s an interesting subject because it’s a vast subject worthy of its own podcast, which is posting the wrong content on social media. Before I jump into this one, John, what do you consider to be wrong content? Do you have some examples?

[00:12:26.400] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, I’m going to repeat myself a little bit. I was watching one of Alajim’s videos, and he was interviewing an agent called Tellehunt. She was new to the industry about four or five years ago. Now she’s got her own brokerage, and I think she’s got about 20 agents working for her. She built the whole business on social media and getting leads through social media. Really smart agent. Great story. I watched it all. It was a great interview. Too many agents are just putting on canned social media content. Content, either they’re getting a service, we offer it at Mailright, but we work with the agent, and if they’ve got the budget, we can do more individual. But we also encourage them to put their own content, and we have a mixture. That’s the best way to get results. But you’re seeing so many agents just really put really, really bad content on social media, and they don’t believe in social media, and they don’t believe they can get any leads from it. But if you watch this interview that Jimmy did have, and I’ll make sure it’s in the show notes, if you go to the Mel Wright website, I’ll make sure the links are there, folks, you’ll just be blown away that it’s the wrong attitude.

[00:14:06.610] – Jonathan Denwood

You can get some fantastic leads, Robert.

[00:14:10.460] – Robert Newman

For those of you who are listening to the show, for you, John, we should get Taley onto the show if we can.

[00:14:15.620] – Jonathan Denwood

How are you going to say that?

[00:14:17.160] – Robert Newman

Listen, I’ve heard her name before. I’ve seen her campaign. The reason her campaign has come up for me is because she’s one of the very few realtors that leaned into her own archetype. What What I mean by that is we all look and sound a certain way. John looks the way he looks, I look the way that I look. And so fixing a marketing message as you move into the new age of media where so much of it is going to be, you really have very little choice other than to get onto camera. So you might as well lean into whatever archetype you are. If you look young, go with tech savvy and speak fast, stuff like that. That’s what I’ve done. But Tali is a mother, and she looks very motherlike. She’s got a very wholesome look. Now, nobody can change the way that they look. Who knows whether she’s wholesome or not? I have no idea. I can only look at her. But what her opening line on her website is I teach moms how to make money in real estate. It is such a pure and simple tagline, especially when you look at it and you go, oh, I think you’ve- And it’s a WordPress website.

[00:15:28.260] – Robert Newman

Yeah. So that’s It’s something to do. So what you don’t want to do is don’t go against archetype. If you’re 80 years old and you’re trying to be on social media, don’t pretend like you’re the master of all things tech. Don’t post stuff that you don’t understand. Don’t go against who you are as a person. If you’re a dog person and you happen to be a realtor and you don’t care about real estate more than you care about dogs, stop posting stuff that you have no connection to. You won’t want to comment on it. Somebody eventually is going to lean into something that you don’t know on a social post. And the very minute that you start to be unauthentic, you can’t unwind it. These digital platforms control the message and response once you’ve put it out there. So you really don’t want to ever lean into something that’s unauthentically you. And if you can be authentic and also be true to whatever archetype you are, are you a lumberjack? Do you live out in the mountains? Do you raise horses? These are all archetypes. So if you raise horses, look like a horse person, and then talk like a horse person, and then post like a horse person.

[00:16:37.720] – Robert Newman

And if you don’t understand what that is, look at other people in the space because you will discover, just like with Tali, That most likely they look and act a certain way. Certainly, this young lady, Tally. Is it Tally? No, it’s Tally. T-a-l-u-i. Now, here’s a fascinating thing, John. Despite the fact she is a millionaire, she’s obviously done quite She’s only got 110 followers on Facebook. Go figure. All right. Moving on to… Hold on, let me check the time here. You know what? We’re going to go to break, ladies and gentlemen. When we come back, we’re going to have more deeply fascinating information you just will not want to miss. We’re also going to do the courtesy of sharing our sponsors of the show with you and hammering away at our own personal message, which we know you care ever so deeply about, which is sharing our show and promoting us for free because that’s what we all love to do in life. All right, stay tuned. We’ll be right back. Three, two, one. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It’s episode number 483 of the MailRight podcast. As promised, the sponsors of the show today are mailright.

[00:17:51.340] – Robert Newman

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[00:18:19.020] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, just book a Zoom with us. It’s really easy. It’s right on the website in the top navigation. And either me or my partner, we do a live demo and we show you some of the great functionality of the system. Back over to you, Rob.

[00:18:34.040] – Robert Newman

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[00:19:05.940] – Jonathan Denwood

I just want to say, if you’re really looking to move your business, you’ve got a successful business and you really want to move it to the next level, you really want to win Robert up, and he’s just got a fantastic amount of knowledge. If you’re really looking to move your business on to the next level, Robert’s the guy to contact.

[00:19:31.360] – Robert Newman

Much appreciated. All right, now, with no further ado, here’s what you- You can send me the check after the show, Robert. I absolutely will. $1 million, John and then Denwood. All right. Here we are. We’re at number three, four, five, and six. We got the vast majority, but we’re going to cover how you network questions and CRMs and how you do or don’t check in with people. Without Without any further ado, why don’t you go ahead and open us up to number three? Because you said staying in touch with people with a purpose.

[00:20:09.680] – Jonathan Denwood

I think if you’re utilizing what I call the Perthinean mythology, but there’s Kelly Williams and also talks about this through their trainers. I’ve been watching a few of their trainers who got some good content on YouTube. They believe in this. You need a date. If these morphologies really work with a database around 300 to 500 people, the bigger database, you got to divide it and use more marketing optimization. But a part of your database are the people that you should ring up. But just not ring up and say, How are you doing? You really should know when their birthdays are in your CRM, there should be useful information and you should keep it updated. If there’s anything around business that might help them, that’s a fantastic opportunity to give them a call and say, I heard this, I noticed this, I just thought you should know about this. It just builds an enormous amount of goodwill for you in your local market. Back over to you, Robert.

[00:21:29.320] – Robert Newman

Checking To get in with people the right way is literally what… There was a recent show that we did, and I made the recommendation of reading a book called Swim with the Sharks by Harvey McKay. If you’re looking for a good handbook that has already been published, that has won every award there is to win by one of the world’s best relationship salespeople alike, probably the best since Dale Carnegie, you want to check out Harvey McKay’s book. You can probably buy it for less than $10, maybe even buy a used copy for $4. It will give you all sorts of reasons, but you really want to relate to a list that you have of interest this client has to check in with purpose. Their birthday is a good reason. Their dog’s birthday is a good reason. Something related to a transaction that you did is a good reason. Something related to tax changes is a good reason. Global reasons are good reasons. There’s all sorts of things like you can do a service call, like when taxes change, instead of worrying about how that impacts everybody, use that as a reason to call your best clients and say, Hey, I don’t know if you heard about this, just want to make sure you did.

[00:22:31.460] – Robert Newman

Here’s how I would address it. You call them problem solution, problem solution, problem solution. It helps with purpose. All right, moving on. Not having a CRM and not using the DTD2 system. I’m embarrassed to say that I don’t know what the DTD2 system is.

[00:22:49.000] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, it’s Kelly Williamson really promotes it through their trainers. I was listening to an interview by Carla Higgins from the Double Duty podcast, and she was talking to Steve Scutchula. I think I butchered his surname, but he’s a chief trainer, one of Kelly Williamson’s chief trainers, and he thought up this mythology, and basically you just use the surname and you rotate it like A’s and C’s, and then you jump another three. It it works with a database between 3 and 500. And it just uses mythology to make sure you’re reading these people. And if you’re dealing with a database between 3 and 500, it means that you’re going to touch base with the people every 13 weeks. And he’s really pushed this. And I watched the interview that he was having with Carla, and I might do some outreach and see if it to come on the show because he really impressed me with his knowledge and really down to an enormously successful real estate agent. He’s a key part of the Kelly Williamson organization. If he is prepared to come on the show, I think it’d be a great interview, Robert.

[00:24:23.200] – Robert Newman

It sounds like it. Failing to have a system and failing to have a CRM, really, I think a part of this It comes down to failing to have a marketing method in place. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we talk about this endlessly, and God, Lord knows, you do not need to do YouTube if you’re not comfortable. What you have to do if you’re going to be professional and decide that you are literally approaching real estate as a career, then you must have some marketing method in place. Letting somebody like Steve or any other human that seems to have a plan to make a complicated subject more digestible to you and is willing If you’re willing to give you some pointers, just pick a person and follow their advice as long as you can verify they’re successful. That’s my only condition. Just make sure that they know how to sell some houses. If they do, like Steve or Ricky Kharouhth or any of the other people that are out there, whatever help that you need, make sure they’re giving it. Do you need to see somebody doing something? Do you need scripts? Do you need whatever? Then you make sure that they’re available to you.

[00:25:25.660] – Robert Newman

Another guy that might be good if you need scripts is Mike Ferry. And people like that, it just depends on what you need. But guys, make sure that failing to have a plan is planning to fail. And the plan does not need to be complicated. I hate to break it to everybody. You don’t need a CRM necessarily. Outlook would be a CRM if you need one. You can keep track of your contacts, you can create a task list. I mean, you don’t need fancy sophisticated tools.

[00:25:56.460] – Jonathan Denwood

I think it’s only when you got a very large database and you do marketing optimization. I think a lot of these other CRMs sell themselves on very complicated methodologies, and I totally agree with you, Rob.

[00:26:14.440] – Robert Newman

Now, this next one is closely related to some of what we’re talking about. I’m going to jump out with this subject now. I’m going to give everybody an example. Here’s another thing that most realtors fail at, and you need to stop this. You need to stop thinking that you can be a sit-at-home realtor, a business card in your pocket, and that people are going to call you automatically. It simply doesn’t work that way. Maybe you all are like, Well, I know that. Okay, then let me take it a step further. You need to stop believing that you don’t have to have an elevator pitch, and you use it in every environment you possibly can. Hello, I’m so and so. I’m a realtor that services blankety blank, and I specialize in divorce. Literally, really five seconds, every single time you do. And so this subject is that you need to stop not building a local network. And here are three ideas for you to build a local network. Number one, John and I have said this so many Sometimes it’s stupid. There’s an automatic place that every single realtor with a license can go to build a network.

[00:27:22.400] – Robert Newman

Every single one of you, no exceptions. And it’s one of the very few things that brokerages are decent for. You can go to open houses. You can offer to assist existing realtors, do their mule work, as Jonathan likes to call it. But show up, shake some hands, ask if it’s okay if you hand out business cards, and if it’s not okay, that’s fine. Still shake some hands, because if you happen to make more of an impression than the realtor who’s hosting the open house, you’ll still do quite well. You can also show up to other realtors’ open houses ostensibly to build a network with that realtor. But you can also, as you cruise in to shake their hand, you can start to understand how somebody who maybe has a lot of experience does their open houses. There’s never, ever an excuse not to learn, especially if you’re new to a career and failing to build a local network, failing to put yourself out there. Every single opportunity is literally probably… If I could, I would put it number one on the list because every single one of you needs to be comfortable walking out the door and shake a hand, and say that you’re a realtor.

[00:28:28.480] – Robert Newman

You should introduce yourself to your neighbors. If you haven’t done that already, that’s where you start a local network, wherever you live, whether it’s an apartment or any other place else. If you’re an apartment building, I would use that as an opportunity to get my pitch down because, yes, apartment dwellers are not homeowners, but maybe they will be someday. And so you can knock on the door and practice your pitch and say, “Hey, I just got licensed or I got licensed a few years back for real estate.” I understand that you, just like me, live in this apartment building. And I just want to hand off my card to you. And if you know anybody he was looking for a house, like to suggest to give me a call. I promise you I’ll do a great job. And even though I’m just learning, I’ll work harder than the next guy. And then you hand off your card or however you’re going to do your pitch. But it gives you an opportunity to start building a network and understanding what you’re going to run across as you attempt to do that.

[00:29:17.660] – Robert Newman

John, I know that we had a little bit of a dialog about this before-Yeah, I think you got some great points.

[00:29:27.140] – Jonathan Denwood

You’re not going to be successful in this industry by being the invisible agent. It doesn’t work. On the other hand, as I mentioned, I was listening to Steve’s interview, and he said that he couldn’t be this friend to everybody. It’s not in his personality type. But the way he overcame it was he wanting to become their trusted expert. He wanted people to see that he was an honest, trustworthy expert on real estate in this region. I think it was Denver was the area that he built up. He was a very successful agent. I think that is so important, but you’re not going to get anywhere by being the invisible agent.

[00:30:26.680] – Robert Newman

Absolutely not. Last but not least, number 6.

[00:30:35.740] – Jonathan Denwood

Writing down clients’ questions and then answering them online. So you can use that through social media on your website. It’s just a great way. If you have any questions, there will be many people with the same question. And we’ve covered this before in other episodes, and you’ve We’ve talked about it extensively. Using Google to find questions to answer, it’s just a great methodology to also use on social media, isn’t it, Robert?

[00:31:11.800] – Robert Newman

It is. So, not looking at questions as marketing opportunities is what you need to stop doing. That’s basically what we’re saying. You really need to hear us. It is one of the most… If you get lucky enough to talk to anybody, even somebody who’s very low on the interest level for real estate, and they ask you a few questions, that’s marketing gold. If they happen to be recorded when you’re doing it, if you’re doing any Zoom consultation with them, 10 times the gold, because then you can post a snippet of them asking the question and then answer it online. It seems like you’re having an interactive dialog with the whole world, especially if you have a good answer. If you don’t have a good answer, that’s what you practice, drill, and rehearse. The PDR used to have a system that was just like the DTD2. It was called Pedia Practice, Drill, and Rehearse. Practice, Drill, and Rehearse. Because if you don’t like your answer, if it doesn’t roll off your tongue, you just practice, drill like an answer until you do like it. And so somebody answering you, asking you questions legitimately in the field, as we used to call it, is one of those real opportunities to sharpen the saw, sharpen your skillset.

[00:32:24.980] – Robert Newman

I love that you included this one in here, John. All right, we’ve hit the end of our time together. I know you all have been loving my repeated drumming of this subject, but hey, guess what? We are one of the top 100 real estate podcasts in the United States, and we would love to be number one. I am taking John with me on that ride. I want to be number one now that I know that we’re being ranked. So please do us a favor, share, like, or comment on whatever platform you’re on. If you’re so inclined, and if anything I’ve said or John has said, we’re going to give you the information that you need to reach out to us. So everybody grab your pens and a piece of paper, and John’s going to go first. He’s going to give you his contact details, and then I’ll go. John, how would you like people to reach out to you?

[00:33:12.610] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, but before that, folks, just leave us a review. If you’re using the iTunes or Spotify app, just leave us a review. It really does help the show. In the end, we will probably get into the top 10, and then Robert will promise not to talk about it anymore. Really, you need to go on the app and do it straight away, folks. But if you want to contact me, the best way is to go to the website and book a quick chat with either me or my partner, or you can email me at Jonathan, J-O-N-T-H-A-N@mel-right. Com. Back over to you, Rob.

[00:33:57.100] – Robert Newman

All right, beautiful. Well, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Robert Newman, and I am one of the country’s best real estate SEO guys. As it turns out, a lot of the things we used for SEO are working really good for AI. If you’d like to know the secret to AI and SEO, book a call with me right away. You can either email me at robert@inboundedrem. Com or go to my website, hit the About page, and you can schedule into my calendar. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening to the show. John, whenever you’re ready, take us offline.