#480 – The Mail-Right Podcast Show: Realtors ‘ Biggest Mistakes To Avoid in 2025″

#480 - The Mail-Right Podcast Show: Realtors ' Biggest Mistakes To Avoid in 2025"

Realtors ‘Biggest Mistakes To Avoid in 2025″

Realtors: Avoid the biggest mistakes in 2025! Discover key tips to boost your success and stay ahead in the market.

In this insightful video, we dive into the top mistakes realtors should avoid in 2025. As the real estate landscape evolves, understanding potential pitfalls is crucial for success. From mispricing listings to neglecting digital marketing strategies, we cover it all. Equip yourself with the knowledge to navigate challenges and seize opportunities in this dynamic market.

Episode Full Show Notes

 

[00:00:09.900] –
Robert Newman

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It’s episode number 480. That is 480. You’ve found one of the top 100 real estate marketing podcasts in the United States. I am super excited to be in every single episode, which, according to our listeners, is you. We are one of the top real estate marketing podcasts available. So thank you so much for making that happen. In the meantime, though, let me introduce you to my amazing co-host. His name is Jonathan Dinwood. He is the founder of multiple small businesses. He has been a WordPress developer hero, a superhero even over the last 10 or 15 years. I actually don’t remember, honestly. He’s also founded a real estate marketing startup called Mail-Right, which he’s been focused on for the last four or five years. They offer an all-in-one system, along with a website, at a slightly lower price point than many of their major competitors. If you are in the market for such a thing, you might want to check them out. Jon, please follow up with an introduction. Could you tell us a little bit about yourself that I haven’t already covered?

 

[00:01:24.420] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Oh, thanks, Rob. You did a fantastic job. I’m the co-founder of Mel-right. Com. We’re an all-in-one platform that provides a CRM, email text, campaigns, a social media platform, and a beautiful pre-designed website template so you can get your WordPress-powered real estate website up and running really quickly. And you get all this if you pay month-to-month at $49, or if you pay annually, $39. Back over to you, Robert.

 

[00:02:03.220] –
Robert Newman

Beautiful. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, today we’re going to talk about some mistakes to avoid in 2025. The title of the video on the podcast is going to be ‘The Biggest Mistakes.’ It’s a bit tough to say which will be the biggest mistake for anyone ever. However, we will attempt to address some of the major roadblocks that realtors often encounter in their own career paths. So, buckle up if you’re interested in knowing what to try to avoid. Take out your pen and piece of paper, start taking some notes, and see if your business plan includes or excludes some of these things, as the case may be. First on our list is not having a lead nurturing strategy or platform for lead generation. I think this is a bit tricky myself, and I believe it has a lot of flavor and detail in the subject matter. But, John, why don’t you share your thoughts about what you were thinking when you added to the show notes?

 

[00:03:01.740] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Yeah, I think a lot of people, especially in the digital lead generation area, they think a lead is somebody that’s land on the landing page, or if you’re using something like Facebook and you’re using their directly generating platform, that the lead is there to buy almost straight away, and most of them aren’t. It’s really that simple. If you’re using Google AdWords, whether local or regional, the call to action increases the likelihood that the prospect is ready for action. However, this still applies even if you’re using the Google platform, as many of these leads won’t take immediate action. And if you don’t have some form of keeping yourself in front of them, through email, text, and that, your conversion is going to be terrible. It’s really that simple, really.

 

[00:04:25.640] –
Robert Newman

Agreed. So you spend… Many agents spend a lot of time and money gathering a name and number, right? But we don’t know where they are in the buying cycle. We don’t know where they are in the selling cycle. They could think that they have urgency, and then something could change, and they become dormant. And all of those possibilities lead to the need to, if you’re not going to lose all the energy, effort, and opportunity that you thought you had in the first place, obviously, you need to follow up, get in front of them. There are several ways to do that. That’s the minutia I mentioned, because as an inbound marketer, we try to get people to join groups, places they’ll visit repeatedly, and provide a lot of value, such as websites. They will come to them organically. You’re going to email them. You’re going to drop notifications off, similar to Facebook or YouTube, letting them know that you’ve added a piece of content. The idea behind being inbound is that you’ve provided something of value, which makes them interested in checking it out, and they’ll come to your site.

 

[00:05:29.520] –
Robert Newman

I still go to Neil Patel’s site. I still follow other people who are excellent inbound marketers. They provide a lot of value. The only thing that I would say is that lately in my own career arc, I tend to drift towards content that’s on video. If it’s just a written blog post, I don’t read them as much as I used to, not even close. So you need a… One way or the other, though, what I interpreted when John put this in the show notes is it’s absolutely critical that you have a strategy, some strategy, whether it’s the ones that John mentioned, whether it’s the ones that I mentioned. You want to have a strategy in place to make sure you’re staying in front of people. If you don’t, it’s like you’re losing 80% of the value of any lead generation you’re doing. Literally that big of a number, because if they don’t close immediately, you lose the value. That’s crazy. That’s crazy. All right, number two on our list is Cold calling and door knocking without a clear strategy. And that could be scripts, or a plan, an organizational plan.

 

[00:06:45.080] –
Robert Newman

When I was doing a lot of door knocking and running canvases and crews, we would create graphs and charts for every block or every neighborhood that we’re in. We would basically take a city map and then create a house on it. And then we would hand that city map out to door knockers, and they would have to make a designation on every single house. So that when we went back to the neighborhood and they turned their clipboard into us at the end of the day, so we knew which door had been knocked on, had they answered, had a presentation occurred. That was all done via those pieces of paper on that clipboard. We had a really strong plan in place every time we were working a neighborhood. And the funny thing is, is that the more you worked on a neighborhood, the more you got your initial responses, the more value that the remaining doors that hadn’t yet answered had because you would have somebody four houses down that had made an appointment for whatever your service was. So now that in those remaining door knocks that might lead to presentations, you had a stronger pitch available to you, such as, did you know that John, four houses down from you, is going to get an alarm installed on Thursday?

 

[00:07:51.570] –
Robert Newman

And once these signs start going up, the house is without signs, without some security protection, because that’s what I was doing at the time. I was working with They’re going to become more vulnerable. So now you’ve got fear of loss, keeping up with the Jones, four different psychological sales mechanics in place inside of a 22nd door knock script. So you’ve really got this incredible opportunity when you have proper notes about how you’ve done your door knocking because it builds. And the same thing is true of circle prospecting, which is cold and using Ricky Karruth, because you do the same thing with the CRM. If you have a building with 363 units in it, and I was cold calling it, I would make notes on every single unit. I would add them to a CRM. I would say the name and the unit number on the CRM so that I could filter by the unit number. I’d say the building name and the unit number so I could filter my CRM based upon that building. Then I would go down that list and call every unit on there and make my notes for every single person that I talk to, because by the time you’ve talked to 30 people in the same building, all your remaining calls are 10 times more valuable, 10 times more likely to close, 10 times more likely to yield you an appointment because you have all the data you collected from your first 30 nos, and they probably told you stuff about the building.

 

[00:09:19.720] –
Robert Newman

They told you about who the local realtor is in the building. They’ve told you how many units they think are available. They’ve told you what the pricing is. If you’re a decent salesperson, they’ve done all If you’re inquisitive, if you understand how to… If you have a plan in place, just like John said, if you have a strategy in place and you are following it diligently, what generally happens is your first calls are the highest resistance, but you learn more. You’re not going to make any sales or appointments most of the time, but you collect your objections, you figure out what the concerns of the people in the building are, and then you have that in your ammunition when you walk into the next call. More likely that you’re ready, prepared, able to handle the objections. And so all your calls get more effective as you’re moving down your list. So I love this addition, John. It’s incredible. What were you thinking when you put it on here?

 

[00:10:12.480] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

It’s slightly different. I think you got to really have a reason for knocking on somebody’s door. Like you’re doing an open house in the area, or let’s say you’re having a party and you invite the neighbors because a neighbors leaving the area, or you’ve got some social event that you’re running for a particular area that you have been canvassing for a while and you just invite them to re-event. I think you’re going to get a much more… Engage in more natural conversations, and you’re going to get a better response if it’s around some event.

 

[00:10:56.460] –
Robert Newman

Awesome. Well, number three on our Our list is, and likely we’re going to go to a break after number three, ladies and gentlemen. So number three on our list is general marketing stuff like Happy fourth of July email. So as part of a business plan, the way that I perceive this comment, and I have no idea what John was thinking when he put it on the list, but when somebody says to me, do you have marketing in place or what’s your marketing in place? There’s so many different things you can do as a business owner. So many. I could marketing assets like pens, pencils, mouse pads that have my logo on it and send them my clients. And there’s a really good reason that you might want to do that. But you can also do giveaways or trips or you can do… There’s a thousand marketing things you could do. Here’s my advice to everybody listening to the show. Do not worry about the thousands of things. Do not get lost in the sauce. Try to pick three things that link together. Start there. If you don’t have a couple of little marketing things you that are cheap and expensive and maybe help you stay in front of your clients, like promotions, find three small ones that fit your budget, the time that you have available to you, and maybe you can link them together.

 

[00:12:11.740] –
Robert Newman

An example would be like a pin like a mouse pad and something else, like a notepad, like a physical notepad, something like that, like three little marketing promotion pieces, and then send them all the people in one kit, and then use them individually or a magnet and a couple of other things. Or you could go with traditional marketing, such as drop them in a postcard. Thank you for your business. Thank you for taking my call. I love taking opportunities to thank people. It puts you back on the radar. It is marketing 101 that you say thank you to people. So if somebody just did a pitch with you, like a conversation, had a long conversation, send them a thank you, a note by email, a physical postcard, which would really set yourself apart. And then you’d link that into maybe a QR code on the a postcard for maybe a giveaway that you have on your website for a lunch or something, something very small, inexpensive, but gives them a reason to go to your website. That’s failing to have little additional marketing things in place, like emails as an example, which is what I think John probably meant by this, is honestly failing to take advantage of the work that you’re doing in other marketing verticals.

 

[00:13:25.720] –
Robert Newman

Now, that was my interpretation, which I think I got wrong. What did you mean when How would you put it on your list?

 

[00:13:31.740] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

I mean, sending these can that mostly come from your broker’s marketing platform that they’re charging you to use, and you’re sending it to your database Happy fourth of July or Happy Christmas, and it’s come from the broker’s marketing CRM. I just don’t think it’s providing any value, and I think will mostly end up in people’s junk folder, or it’ll get deleted straight away. I just don’t think in 2025, that’s really going to pan out for you.

 

[00:14:14.020] –
Robert Newman

I would agree. Well, we’re going to go to our break a little bit early, ladies and gentlemen. It’s about 30 seconds to 45 seconds early. For those of you who are listening to us in any of the big podcasting platforms, of which I’m going to, at some point, have to get myself a list, but hopefully you all know what it are. Million podcasts. Oh, what’s that huge one? Spotify. Wherever you’re hearing us right now, if there’s a way for you to like the show, give some social acknowledgement. If you’re liking what John and I are providing value, maybe you’re a long-time listener or long-time follower, please do us a favor and thumbs up or like the show. I had no idea that there was ways to collect that data for podcast trackers. They do collect the data and they do track your rank. And so I would love it if you’d help us grow a little bit in terms of our placement. We were number 86. I’d love to be number 50 next year. If you help with that, I will be eternally grateful, and I’m sure that John would be as well. All right, we’ll come back.

 

[00:15:17.430] –
Robert Newman

Stay tuned. We’ve got some great stuff for you after the break. We can’t wait to share it. We’ll be right back. Three, two, one. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It’s episode number 480. That’s 480. You have found the second half of one of the top 100 real estate marketing podcast in the United States, maybe the world. Congratulations. We’re so happy to have you. Thank you for listening. Today, what we’re talking about is big mistakes that you can avoid as a realtor in 2025. So postcards with no real story is number 4 on John’s list. Now, I’m liking this thing where I look at what he’s got posted here and I interpret it. And so far, the I’ve gotten really wrong. That’s not what he really meant. So I’m really enjoying this.

 

[00:16:05.340] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Let me do the intro because. What I meant by this is I think postcards that really promote how you helped one of your clients are great. I think postcards can be effective, but they shouldn’t be about the agent, about I sold. I’m a top producing agent in Kansas or California. But if you got a postcard that put on how you helped a specific client and it shows that you gave some real value, I think that’s a better idea. Over to you, Rob.

 

[00:16:51.340] –
Robert Newman

Got you. So I’m going to make a rare recommendation for somebody that I follow that is my number guy who provides a massive amount of value if you happen to sign up for his email marketing list. You want to see somebody who does email marketing right, who tells stories in every single thing. All these stories can be applied to postcards, by the way. So it plays directly into what John is saying. His name is Bill Mueller, M-U-E-L-L-E-R, and he runs a website called Story Sales Machine. I’ve talked to him personally. I’ve been part of his email threads now for years, about three Three or four times a year, he sends me a professional marketer an email that is so good, I stop in my tracks, read the email, message him back, and say, This is pure genius, and I deeply appreciate you, and he’s giving you those ideas for free. There’s no charge to this. When you subscribe to his email list, if I, as a lifetime marketer, am picking up value from it, I’m almost 100% sure all of you will. Follow Bill, and if you feel so inclined, tell him that Robert Newman sent you or that the MailRight podcast sent you, either way, and see if you get the same value.

 

[00:18:15.960] –
Robert Newman

But it should cure this number four on the list. Number 5, John, and I’m going to let you pick it up and do the same thing that you did with number 4, is video content that isn’t searchable. Why don’t you go ahead and intro Yeah, well, people are going to find your email because they’re going to be doing searches on YouTube or some other platform, but I’m concentrating on YouTube.

 

[00:18:40.760] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

You’re probably going to have a local area, so you’re going to have to make your video searchable. So that’s what the title is about. That’s what the title is about, that’s what the meta description, that’s the tagging you’re going to use. And if it’s about these four subjects that I’ve Subsections. Geography, relevant content, i. E, around housing, ones that you’re just marketing, attractions, what’s going on in your area, what? Pacific, like zoos, people that might be moving from outside the area to the area. So they’re looking at Pacific, what goes on in the town or city. Business stories, what’s going on in your town when it comes around business. If you keep to these four subcategories and tag them properly, they’re going to be found much more easier and they’re going to show up and you’re going to get a lot more traffic for your videos.

 

[00:19:48.200] –
Robert Newman

I agree. So John covered that pretty well. Everything he said, I agree with. Youtube is one of our core services that we offer at Inbound RIM, YouTube optimization. It is a skill, it is an art, and It is becoming more valuable every day. It is something that you should focus on yourself. You should sign up for whatever. There are a couple of websites that provide a lot of value to the average user and do so at a very low amount of money. That’s VidIQ or Tubuddy. Either one has good content. I use VidIQ, and I’m not shilling. I’m not asking you to use my affiliate code. None of that. I’m telling you just to go there for $10 a month and get huge value and learn everything you need to know about optimization optimizing videos, and then you’ll call me because they take a lot of time, and I will do it for you. However, you really need to make sure that your video content has been posted with a minimal amount of optimization or your video It’ll never get found no matter how good it is. What John basically said, I couldn’t agree more.

 

[00:20:49.960] –
Robert Newman

I cannot believe how many videos I see that have been produced using thousands and thousands of dollars of time, equipment, and then nobody optimizes the video at all. You’re like, I don’t even understand. Why did you just spend all that time and money to make it not findable? It’s crazy. All right, next up on the list, number 6. Totally Canned and Boring Month Well, it’s probably newsletters that are produced by your broker. Now, I think I understand this one, but, John, why don’t you take it away and intro it?

 

[00:21:20.580] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

It was a bit like point three about the fourth of July archetypal emails. I got quite a few from agents about the fourth of July. Obviously, it’s a bit tricky because I’m English, so it’s not a date that I really derivate. No, I don’t believe it. But when it comes… Come on, Rob, that was a good one. I’m totally So we can’t. It’s the same thing that applies to this, Rob. These boring monthly newsletters that come from the broker’s marketing system which they’re charging you for. So you think I’m paying for it. So let’s use it. And so they push them out, and they’re soulless. Yeah, they’re not going to get much response in 2025, in my opinion, Rob.

 

[00:22:22.460] –
Robert Newman

So here’s a crazy thing. There have been countless, and I mean countless marketing systems that have done like crafted emails, such There’s a really old one out there that has a million people still using them, and I forget what they are. It’s a white something or another. Anyway, there’s them. There’s Easy Agent Pro. There’s all these people that do emails. And here’s the idea behind it? The agency RE, these big marketing systems, Compass. And here’s the concept. Somewhere way up the food chain, there’s a professional writer and marketer who writes a single email for 10,000 clients. It’s 10,000 agents. I know some of those marketing people, the people at the top of the food chain, sending out the messages to the 10,000 people. Before AI was prolific, they were oftentimes copying off each other’s work, just looking for somebody who wrote a newspaper and taking an article from that and then regurgitating a little bit and then posting it there, following their favorite blogger, regurgitating what they said, and then sending it out to 10,000 people under the guise of it’s just really well thought out new content. The amount of the only people on the list that I just gave you all that I think were doing an interesting job was Mauricio Umansky over at the Agency RE.

 

[00:23:49.740] –
Robert Newman

He pays attention to some of the details of his business where he has a marketer writing custom-crafted stuff. Some of the time, they break it out by market. In other words, your market update that you’re sending to your clients might be designed for Los Angeles as opposed to one that’s designed for the whole bloody nation all at once. Why am I getting into this granular detail? Because some of the time you’re sold that you’re going to get this top-flight email system and email content, and you’re almost never given anything useful. Almost never, no matter how good the marketing company. Why? Because who is familiar with your market, like Wichita, where John is at. Is somebody writing John an email for Wichita? Is it relevant? Is it seasonal? Is it relevant for right now? Is it even… Like Wichita probably has… So the real estate market is very divided. I’m going to give one last example, I swear to God, and then I’m going to move on. So some markets are down by 60 to 90%. California is about steady. So you have some markets that are just absolutely dying in terms of real estate sales and production.

 

[00:24:58.960] –
Robert Newman

And you have other markets that are slightly up or staying static. If you’re trying to write a single email, HomePrizes just keep going up, but that listing that we know is going to fly off the shelves, you should get it out there. Well, that for 50% of the United States is actually going to be offensive. You will piss people off if you send that email. That is what I’m trying to say in terms of this email content. Be really careful with this monthly newsletter baloney. Number seven on the list, not calling people and keeping and building relationships. What were you thinking with that one, John?

 

[00:25:40.340] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Well, it’s the opposite of my statement around cold calling. Without purpose, is that I’m not against calling people, but I think agents call the wrong people. They don’t call people that they have done business with or they have met, because you definitely don’t want to be what I call the invisible agent. A lot of agents are. They’re in the wrong business because it’s about meeting people and having conversations with them. And the people that you’ve met, you should be out there meeting people and building up your database. And then when you got quiet periods and it should be scheduled, so you do do these calls, you It’s a bit like the Bafini mythology, these 300 or whoever you got some reasonable relationship, you should try and keep in contact with them. It’s not a hard sell, but just how you’re doing. I thought I I’ll just give you a quick call, blah, blah, blah. I think it makes a big difference. What do you reckon, Rob?

 

[00:26:53.020] –
Robert Newman

The more energy and effort that you can put into your sales practices, this is something And that, listen, everybody listening to this podcast, this is really just, John, one of the mistakes that people make, honest to God, is you just don’t make a commitment to being a professional salesperson. That’s basically what this whole list is saying. And what is that? Well, spend 10,000 hours in the mechanics of all the things that are involved in sale, introducing yourself to people, doing a presentation, gaging interest, getting to know them, trying to create some social equity so that you can continue forward a professional conversation without raising enough resistance from them that you lose that opportunity. That’s basically relationship building. All those things are part of sales. So becoming a professional salesperson is definitely 10,000 to 20,000 hours of work, no doubt about it. This whole calling people and following up thing, I couldn’t recommend it more. Keeping and building relationships, you should have your top 100 people in your social circle or the social circle that you want to create, and you should be on the phone every day all all day until you have a better sales pipeline in place.

 

[00:28:03.780] –
Robert Newman

Because if you’re going to become a real estate agent and you’re like, you’ve been a teacher and you ask me, what would my marketing plan be? I’d say, Take your top 100 parents that you ever dealt with and then call them and say, listen, I just want to let you know I’m retiring from being a teacher or I’m starting a second career. You know that teachers don’t pay very much. I just wanted to let you know I got my real estate license. Would you mind if I sent you my card in the mail? And if you have a good relationship… Sorry, go ahead.

 

[00:28:29.340] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

I’m just going to interrupt, see how you respond. If you’re starting out and you haven’t got a lot of content and you’re going to all these business events, instead of sticking your card in front of people, take other people’s cards and then give them a ring and say, How can I help you?

 

[00:28:46.780] –
Robert Newman

That’s a brilliant idea. Yeah, that’s a brilliant idea.

 

[00:28:49.790] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Apart from some real gids, some real miserable buggers, most people are not going to respond negatively. You ring up, so I’m just giving you a call. It’s great meeting you. I just wondered, Is there any way I could help you? What are you going to say? They’re going to say, F off. I don’t think so, do you?

 

[00:29:07.920] –
Robert Newman

No. And then you’re right. That gives you a chance to practice your social interaction, specifically professional social interaction, which is the art of engaging in a conversation and getting your message heard. That is not an easy skill at all for those listening. Anybody who’s been a professional salesperson who’s listening to this podcast, you know exactly what I’m talking about. Takes you years to figure out how to gently introduce your offers into a conversation. Anybody can stop in the middle of a conversation and say, Hey, John, I’m selling a ticket to a show tonight for 49. 95. I’ve put one in your name. What’s your credit card number? Anybody can do that. It’s putting an offer on the table, and John says, Fuck off, probably. Then I go, Hey, I hear you, and your fuck off is very valid, but did you know that the show is Mariah Carey, and don’t you think she’s hot? Yes, I do. Great, John, what’s your credit card number? Then you can just bug her off doubly now. Then you go down. That’s the old sales methodology, and honestly, it doesn’t work very well. Very few people can make it to five closes using extremely high, in-your-face, and highly aggressive sales tactics.

 

[00:30:21.310] –
Robert Newman

What is most likely is that you build a relationship, establish a rapport, and then make some very subtle offers, such as, ‘If I could do this, how would you do that?’ If I could, would you? And those are the kinds of sales tactics that work today. Last but not least, John, you did number eight. You get a lucky number eight to go along with our show, number 480. So here we are. What’s lucky number eight? Do not become the invisible agent. Go out and meet people, building relationships within your community. So, John, why don’t you carry us away on that one?

 

[00:30:54.500] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

I said it was seven, really, then I combined both. What it says, don’t be the invisible agent. I have a website, and Robert has his excellent agency, an SEO agency, featured in the video, showcasing all the great things that Robert does with his team. I’ve got this more affordable platform, but it’s just tools to help you. But it’s still a person-to-person business. You can’t be the invisible agent. You have to get out there and meet people.

 

[00:31:33.580] –
Robert Newman

No matter how you do it, you have to do what John and I do, because I don’t like Schilling, and John doesn’t either. We’ve talked about it off-air. We don’t necessarily like saying every single show, Hey, go see Mailright, go see in Balmarium, but he is right. Regardless of how you do it, you must have the courage and the will to put up a signpost that says, ‘This is my business.’ This is what my business does. If you would like to learn more about these things, please visit the location where I have information about my business. That is very, very important. I couldn’t agree more. It doesn’t matter how uncomfortable you are with it. If you want to promote a business, you have to get used to talking about said business in any way that you can. Speaking of which, ladies and gentlemen, I’m thrilled to announce that today’s sponsor for the show is inboundrem.com, a real estate SEO and marketing company that does websites that you own. We offer a range of services that focus on YouTube, hyperlocal, and traditional SEO. If you haven’t implemented a solution for these things or are looking to take control of your marketing destiny, please visit our sponsor, InboundRem.

 

[00:32:39.680] –
Robert Newman

Visit Com’s website, go to the Services and About page, and see what you think. The other sponsor of the show is Mail-Right.com. It is an all-in-one platform that is extremely affordable, probably the most affordable platform in the entire real estate marketing industry right now. It’s run by John, our co-host. He has done an amazing job with it. John, is there anything you’d like to say or a place you’d like people to visit?

 

[00:33:04.680] – Jonathan Denwood
Robert Newman

Yes, we’ve added all the new websites now. We got over about 9 to 10 really quite nice templates. They’re all done in WordPress using a system called Cadence. It’s really fast to load. In my opinion, it’s the fastest loading methodology for WordPress-powered websites, leveraging Gutenberg technology. I would say this, but I do believe it. We’ve done a really nice job.

 

[00:33:33.380] –
Robert Newman

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