#471 – The Mail-Right: Best Real Estate Virtual Assistant Companies for 2025

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Best Real Estate Virtual Assistant Companies for 2025

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#1 – Introduction

#2 – What are some of the key things a real estate agent needs to look for before hiring a VA services provider?

#3 – What tasks should you assign to a real estate VA?

#4 – We look at some of the leading providers in 2025

Summit VA Solutions

https://www.summitvasolutions.com/

Prices – No public pricing information

Virtudesk

https://www.myvirtudesk.com

Prices – $450 set-up fee, Hourly rates from $9.55-13.30

MyOutDesk

https://www.myoutdesk.com

Prices – Starts at $1,988 per month.

TaskBullet

https://www.taskbullet.com

Prices – Philippine VA pricing: $7.50-11 per hour, U.S. VA pricing: $25-30 per hour

Brivity VA

https://brivityva.com

Prices – $350 onboarding fee – Part-time: $1,250 per month – Full-time: $1,750 per month

Episode Full Show Notes

[00:00:16.110] – Robert Newman

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It’s episode number 471 of the Mailright Show. Today, we have a fancy title for the show, but really what we’re going to do is we’re going to talk about the real estate assistant companies, places that you can find and source real estate VAs, which we feel strongly is one of the most essential elements of a real estate, a professional real estate agent’s toolkit that is a medium to long term vet in the industry. Before we got into this subject, though, John and I used virtual assistant-type resources to build our businesses. I’ve worked with virtual assistant-type resources for 30 years. We have a lot to say about this subject.

[00:01:06.980] – Jonathan Denwood

You probably will because you have more experience in this topic than I do.

[00:01:13.210] – Robert Newman

Well, I’m not going to disagree on this one. Please give us a little intro, though, John, and give us some background on how you built your business. As you provide the intro, why don’t you give a little background on the places you use, like overseas resources, or just a little top-level thought about it.

[00:01:39.270] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, sure. I’m the joint founder of Mailright, mail-right. Com. We’re an easy-to-use CRM with a real strong focus on providing lead-generating tools as part of the CRM. And it starts at around $50, $49 per month if you pay month to month. So it’s affordable, folks, and it’s easy to use. So my thoughts about… Well, I’ve used a bit of Upwork. That takes a lot of time. There have been bigger projects; sometimes I’ve had success, and other times it’s been a heap of failure. But on reflection, that was more down to me not having the process that you have, which you talked about in previous episodes. For some projects, I’ve had more success using Fiverr, where it’s a very narrow deliverable that I wanted. The people have clear evidence of a lot of experience and examples, and are a premier Fiverr supplier. I wouldn’t spend much money on Fiverr, but to get the intro for a video or get some audio work, I have a long-term retainer and an audio editor who helps me with these podcasts.

[00:03:40.980] – Jonathan Denwood

But if I only had a one-off or was looking for a long term, I was trying different people out. Fiverr can work out. On the right project, I’ve had more success and quicker success than on Upwork. Upwork, I wouldn’t recommend it to somebody without experience in hiring offshore staff, because you have to understand what you’re getting involved with. Over to you, Rob.

[00:04:22.690] – Robert Newman

Brilliant. So my name is Robert Newman. I’m the founder of Inbound REN. I’m your second co-host. I’ll be the voice that usually steers a little bit more than John, but it’s John who founded the show, Mailright, and John who founded numerous companies in different tech spaces, such as SAAS. He’s got a couple of podcasts. I’m an SEO expert with a very deep pedigree in running massive call centers, which is why I’ve worked with overseas resources for almost the entirety of my career, John. It’s been since I was 19, and I’m 54. So, I would never guess. My experience has been, and I have about 20 day-to-day overseas resources that I’ve hired and trained for Inbound R. E. but I’ve leaned heavily on my experience hiring in mass. Very much, I’ve taken the road less traveled. I’ve flown to the Philippines. I’ve met with the people that I’ve hired. I’ve met every single person that works for me right now, with only a couple of exceptions, even at the lowest possible end of the company, because you can get good work from people, no doubt.

[00:05:49.350] – Robert Newman

You don’t have to meet them, you don’t have to fly to them. There is a vastly different buy-in when they feel connected to what you’re doing, even if they’re just people on a retainer. Which is just the… It’s the same way you get excellent performance from sales teams. You train them, you pay attention to them, you hold them, you nurture them. When they can produce, they tend to stay loyal because oftentimes, by the time you train them to produce a lot, they roll on to other sales teams, especially if you’ve not done an excellent job in training them. If they had to learn everything on their own, they would bail on you as soon as they can. So in terms of hiring overseas resources, let me say that I think it’s critical for real estate agents. That’s number one, literally the introduction to the show. Why should we talk about this? Because you can pay somebody $5 an hour to create a thumbnail for you, or you can go to Fiverr and spend 15 bucks and get five different iterations of a thumbnail. You can get it with less effort and less thought than even using AI.

[00:06:59.300] – Robert Newman

They deliver the product to you on Fiverr, and they do so for such a low amount of money. I’m not even sure that it makes sense to muck around with AI applications, even though they literally just deliver done for you thumbnails, like on VidIQ. I still think that there’s space for Fiverr and other tools. And to reiterate, to comment on what you said, John, I’ve had exactly the same experience, no doubt. There If I was hiring for… My original blog post for my customers were all done off a Fiverr guy who just wrote these things super fast. And my original There was so much that we did with Fiverr. The only time I started to get outside of Fiverr was when I wanted to train people to be part of my team on a permanent, ongoing basis. And then I started to get outside of Fiverr because Fiverr simply didn’t provide the commitment that I needed to build the infrastructure that I wanted for inbound REN. I wanted somebody to answer client emails 24/7, basically. I wanted to hand off an inbound REN email address, and I wanted to have these people take ownership of customer communication.

[00:08:21.860] – Robert Newman

That is not stuff that you can do using a Fiverr resource. But you’re right in the sense that I had to spend a year training these people to get them to a place where they could do the work that I’m talking about, to answering emails, answering questions. They had to know what the answers were that I wanted provided. They had to learn from me for a full year before they were qualified. I still only have three resources that are approved to talk to customers out of 20 people. You’re right. It takes a ton of time. It’s training to teach, to make sure that somebody is upholding your values. But you can also go another route, which is what John is focused on for today’s show, and I couldn’t agree more because here’s the other route that you can go, John, which you pointed out. You can hire some companies to do it for you who are good at individual tasks. You can also hire companies that specialize in hiring real estate VAs. That’s what we’re going to talk about today. So one of the very first questions that I think you very smartly ask is, what are some of the key things a real estate agent needs to look at before hiring a VA service provider?

[00:09:37.050] – Robert Newman

So what were some of the things that you came up with that you would look for before hiring somebody?

[00:09:43.690] – Jonathan Denwood

I’m going to I’m just going to throw it back to you because I just think you got a lot more experience than this. My development team, I have a couple US-based developers that I met through my endeavors in the WordPress community by going to WordPress word camps. I have a small group of US-based WordPress. And then I adopted a team offshore from somebody who was getting out of WordPress web development. They were semi-retiring, and they were actually moving to Costa Rica. They said they were closing shop, and they had this team that had been working for them for about six or seven years. And she said, Do you want to adopt them? And I said, Yeah, I’ll adopt them. Because I had used them as a bit of overflow. When I was needing some, I was a bit pushed. We were a bit pushed. We were using them as an overflow service, and they were pretty good. So I adopted. She said, ‘Go work for Jonathan. And that was about seven years ago.

[00:11:11.550] – Robert Newman

All right. Well, when I’m hiring for VAs, Especially when I’m hiring off large message board type services. Now, I’m using antiquated language, but there are services where you can install an ad and then you find people. And LinkedIn is turning themselves into that. Twitter is even starting to in that direction, like hiring employees. I got to tell you, John, that one of the reasons I continue to use Upwork is they have a filter that allows me to target certain countries. And that’s one thing I’ve learned. Please, nobody who’s listening to this show message me, but I have tried Pakistan and Indian resources over and over again. While I’ve had success for a couple of years, the employees in these countries are usually so pressured for certain types of success that I never keep anybody over a year or two, and then I end up having to retrain them. Whereas my Philippines team, which is They’ve all been with me for seven, eight years, they’re still with me, every single person, nobody’s ever left. And that is really important to me, John. So when I’m looking for somebody, I stick with two countries. That’s it. I go with Macedonia, and that’s when I want people that speak English better, and I’m willing to pay a couple of bucks more per hour.

[00:12:36.170] – Robert Newman

And then what I’m looking for, when you’re looking for a VA, first of all, it’s the country that they come from. And then secondly, what it is, is you’re looking Honestly, it’s like, number one, I look for people that have a spotless record on Upwork. I don’t mess around with people that got an 89 %. I look for people who are five-star. I look for people that are new or When they’re into their career. They don’t have 100,000 hours work. Why? Because generally people on Upwork that have 10, 20, 30,000 hours work or even a thousand hours work, they have set clients that they’re already really invested in. I am looking for somebody to go to build into working for me full-time and basically always being available to me as a resource. That usually means I’m looking for people with a lower level of hours worked, five-star review.

[00:13:32.640] – Jonathan Denwood

Before we go for our break and talk maybe about some of these companies that are on this list, what are a couple of tips, insights that When a real estate agent is looking at these various companies that provide via virtual assistant, how do they make, apart from the price, are there a couple of insights that you can give that they need that that would help them make maybe a better choice rather than just- It’s all about just being really diligent.

[00:14:12.940] – Robert Newman

And this is the part that frustrates me, John, is that I’ve said this before and people don’t listen. And when you’re on Upwork, here’s one of these- Are you talking about me? No, I don’t know what you do or don’t do. But here’s one of the first things I do when I’m on Upwork, and it’s so basic. I’m always gobsmacked that people I don’t do this. I don’t just look at their resume because anybody can say anything they want on a resume. Actually, most of the time on Upwork and other places, most cultures lie. They lie on their resume. Indians, Pakistanis do it all the time. They don’t really have the work history that they said that they have. I go into a portfolio and look to see if they have a portfolio, and if they do have a portfolio, I absolutely look at the examples, and then I try to verify in some way that the person The person that I’m talking to, if I really like the example, I try to verify that the person I’m talking to actually did the work. So that’s a multi-step process. Sometimes it means reaching out to the person whose project it was, and I do all of that before talking to the resource because if they didn’t really do the work, I don’t want to waste my time talking to them.

[00:15:21.270] – Robert Newman

I verify their reviews and I verify their work, and I find the work that I like, and then I verify their… And that takes care of 80% of it. By the time I’m ready to talk to somebody, I know I want to talk to them. I’m already pretty sure that there’s somebody worth talking to. It’s just a matter of, are they responsive? And that is one thing that I do that is a great litmus test, everybody who’s listening to the show, because you’re asking me for tips and hacks. Well, here’s a quick hack. You can send an initial comment to somebody on these services. You can message them in Upwork, you can. And you go, Hey, I’m looking at your resume and checking your reviews, I just wanted to let you know. Why would I send a message like that? I just like to test responsiveness. That’s it. I’m not making a commitment. I’m not telling them I want to… They’ll always go… In the Philippines and everywhere else, they’re very aggressive most of the time. They’re like, Oh, yeah, you want to set up? I’m like, No, I’m not ready to set up a call with you yet.

[00:16:19.100] – Robert Newman

I’m just letting you know I’m looking at your resume. I want you to look at mine. I want you to look at mine because you know me, John. I have a five-star history everywhere I go, and I’ve got a triple A rating on Upwork. It’s like I’ve spent $500,000 there, and every single person that’s ever worked for me has given me a five-star review on the Upwork side. So I want somebody to really check me out the same way I’m checking them out. So it’s like, Hey, check me out. And then I’m checking you out. That’s all this is, is letting you know I’m checking you out. And if they don’t respond, I move on.

[00:16:55.860] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. So I think what you’re saying with a company is spend a bit of time looking at the reviews of each company and then do an outreach and see how quickly and how they respond to you. Is that basically- Yeah.

[00:17:13.930] – Robert Newman

I mean, We’re going to go to break in a second here, guys, and John, but I want to say something that I think is really relevant. It does take a lot of time to find somebody good. But John, all the success I’ve had, all the benefits of having a company, it has all come on the backs of my employee search skills. That’s it. That is where I really shine. That’s what the telemarketing business taught me to do is hire thousands of people, and I’ve done that. You really want to be very diligent and go step by step inside hiring somebody, check their reviews, check who they’ve worked with. Because once you hire them, oftentimes you’re done with that for years if you hired right. You’ll find your assistant and you’ll done. So yes, this is a lot of time. It sure is. But my God, can somebody good change your entire career trajectory?

[00:18:08.660] – Jonathan Denwood

Before we go for our break, would you hope that one of the differences between trying to hire direct and utilizing one of these companies, I’m only surmising this, is that they should have a process. They should be open and showing you their process to hire their team members to you and have some process that identifies fitting the right team member in their own organization with the right type of agent?

[00:18:49.080] – Robert Newman

I would certainly hope so. My challenge, you’re asking a very good question. I’ve certainly tried to hire subcontracting companies out before, and what I always find is they fall far short of my personal benchmarks for success. I want complete trackability. I have all my people on time trackers, and that’s on top of the fact that I used to have them on Upwork, and they were getting tracked screen by screen. I use that shit, John. I use it every day. I don’t slack off on it. I don’t watch everything that everybody does, but I check. I do what’s called the spot check. I look at one little thing, but I do it every single day. I’m very consistent about it. Everybody knows that somebody’s work is getting checked every single day. In the beginning of the company, when I first started this thing, I found all sorts of people doing all sorts of shady and strange things. That hasn’t happened in years now. My team is really good, but I still spot check. And do I find that other people who have contracting companies do that level of diligence? I don’t. I don’t hire from subcontracting companies.

[00:19:57.370] – Robert Newman

They just don’t have my level of attention to detail. They don’t care about the result as much as I do. They don’t care about the people they hire as much as I do. But there’s one thing we’re seeing, though, John, and you and I have talked about this privately offline before. I also take a lot of big chances with my people. I have given out loans, I’ve taken care of health issues, I’ve bought cars for my people. I really vest heavily in my teams because I I want, I don’t expect, but I want complete commitment on their end. But to get it, you really have to be committed yourself, even to overseas teams. I want complete commitment from my subcontractors, and you don’t get it. They don’t even come close to that diligence, which is why I hire direct. That’s why I hire direct, because I know I’m going to step that game up. That’s why half the reason I started inboundarium is so that I had that direct one-to-one contact with the people doing the work. We’re going to go to break and we come back. We’re going to get into a couple of companies that you can hire.

[00:21:09.190] – Robert Newman

Please don’t, everybody listening to the show, don’t take everything I said as some de facto So you shouldn’t hire a company, because for most people, you do want to hire a company. So we’re going to cover some companies that you can hire when we come back from break. And stay tuned because that will be in just a moment. Three, two, one. Welcome back to episode number 471 of the MailRight podcast. Today, we’re talking about virtual assistance. And before we went to break, we promised you a few companies that we were going to talk about in 2025. First on our list is Summit VA Solutions. Now, John, you definitely have to help me out because I have only experience with one of these people in a really random way. So what did you discover about Summit VA Solutions when you looked them, when you researched them.

[00:22:03.190] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, I’ve got a quick question before this, though. Would I be right that there’s probably two types of engagement that these companies adopt? There’s one where they’re a dating service where they basically do all the checks or supposed to do all the checks, like what you outlined that you do in your own company. And then they give you one candidate or small, like 2-3 candidates, and you choose one, and they get up front fee or they get a cut of… You pay them and they pay the virtual assistant that’s normally abroad. But then there’s another company where it’s more like a more traditional model where you’re hiring the person from the company, basically. They have a pool of people. They interview you. They say, Well, this person in our company, and then that person is introduced to you. Am I correct, you got these two basic models?

[00:23:29.980] – Robert Newman

I haven’t used every basic model that’s out there. I’ve usually just tired people direct. But yes, you’re correct. The platform, the ideal with Upwork is you pay 5%, you pay your people, and they take a 5% cut, but they take it from the platform. You pay through the platform, they take it out of the platform, and that’s how they do it. In other iterations of my career, I’ve used hiring companies. When I’m hiring in Mass or in India, for instance, running a call center there, you’ll have a recruiting agency that fills your entire call center. They’re 100% responsible for hiring everybody. That agency is taking a finders fee and a cut of your hourly wage. They say, We’re going to provide you these people for 7. 25, and you just pay the 7. 25 per head and not worry about anything else. They split the money on their end. I was never in accounts payable. I just know I paid 7. 25. I paid X amount per head, and then sent it out to them, and somebody took their cut. As long as that per head price was less than a certain number that I had for my budget, I didn’t really care.

[00:24:44.660] – Robert Newman

As long as the work was good, which generally was real… When you’re hiring in mass, John, you’re not getting high quality. Just like when you’re getting 100 leads, you’re not getting high quality. You’re usually getting 100 not Not great people and a couple of really good ones. That was always your job at the top of the stack was to find that handful of good people and assign them to more elite call center jobs, like confirming stuff, verifying transactions, stuff like that, stuff that was really high caliber that required a lot of diligence on your call center services team.

[00:25:25.300] – Jonathan Denwood

So if we start the first one, Summit VR, VA Solutions. Well, the research I did was just looking at other people’s reviews and their articles, because I haven’t got any experience of hiring people, but they seem to get good reviews. They don’t publicly tell you how much they’re going to charge. The other thing I was going to ask you is this summit, they seem to have quite extensive list of services that they do because they also include… I’m not sure you’re going to be that enthusiastic because in the article that I’m looking at, they list SEO optimization and social media management. Their list of services that they’re going to do is quite extensive, but I couldn’t see what they were charging, or they don’t publicly say. So the question I was going to ask you, do you think it’s better just to have a narrow set of requirements to start off with and just go with one of these companies and just have one or two things that they’re going to do rather than let them at it with literally this very long list that I’m looking at?

[00:27:00.890] – Robert Newman

Repeat the question one more time, John.

[00:27:06.590] – Jonathan Denwood

Sorry. Yeah, sorry. I rambled, didn’t I? I was saying, if you’re hiring one of these companies like this summit, they seem to have good reviews, but they got a very extensive list of services that they provide. And I was thinking, if you’re starting out, wouldn’t it be best just to choose one or two areas and then in thinking you’re going to hire them and just let them add everything in your company?

[00:27:35.270] – Robert Newman

Yeah. I mean, so for one thing, they’re advertising VA solutions for stuff that doesn’t make sense, like lockout, HOA, utilities, repairs, and a virtual assistant isn’t going to handle most of those. There are things that they could do inside each one of those processes, but they’re not very specific. Video creation, SEO-friendly content, Somebody took, copied and pasted the summit VA solutions list and then threw it on a website. Website’s not very good. However, what is interesting is they do have a good set of pictures that make me think that the company is legit because what they’re doing is they’re highlighting teams of 20 and 30 from four different countries on their photos, which makes me believe that they probably have teams in Sri Lanka and the Philippines, and there’s somewhere in Latin America as one of their teams. And that’s interesting because really, you can get a lot of great service from virtual assistance or overseas assistance, and Another thing that makes me think it’s legitimate is one of their pictures, especially from the Philippines, is all women, and that’s very, very accurate. Most of my people are women, and they work from home while they’re raising families.

[00:28:59.790] – Robert Newman

And That is a very true thing that you wouldn’t know unless you hired a lot of VAs. You don’t know what you’re going to get unless you’ve done a lot of it. You do get a lot of women in a lot of different countries, which is I’ve always found fascinating, but it’s true. Anyway, I don’t know if that really answers your question, but Summit does look relatively legitimate. There’s four people stating Stacey obviously started the company, and Birdette Canero and Ciscio Animes and Hannah Desbita are all Filipino, which makes a ton of sense. Stacey is running his company using nothing but overseas resources, which is brilliant. Because you’re doing what you said you would do by building the company that way. I really like it. He’s got nine people listed here that work for him, a marketing person, all his support people. They’re all obviously Filipino or Latin American hires. I think that’s incredibly relevant in terms of a VA solutions company.

[00:30:18.390] – Jonathan Denwood

The next one, Virtual Desk, does have their prices, a $450 set up fee, and the hourly rates go from 9: 55 to 13: 30. They seem to have a smaller list of services they’re providing. What do you think of them, Robert?

[00:30:43.840] – Robert Newman

Well, I think that these guys, number one, in terms of their actual pricing, they’re insanely high. That’s why they’ll publish it. Require $450 setup fee in a three-month lock-in period so that they can teach and train their people, the scripts and everything else. Customer service for 1060 an hour, that means that they are pricing this at a minimum where they’re making 100% profit on the hourly. Most of the people in the Philippines work for $2 to $5 an hour. So something like this, they’re going to be really banking a lot of revenue. I don’t know if I trust that or not. I don’t know if VirtuDesk is going to have as good of reviews as everybody else does. But who knows? It’s also a Russian that owns it. And that makes me suspicious, too, to be really honest with you.

[00:31:39.880] – Jonathan Denwood

Don’t blame you. On to the next one. So if you thought virtual desk, because my out desk starts just slightly below 2,000 a month. But it’s Similar to the first one, it’s got more, not quite such an extensive list, but more than virtual desk. But what do you think of these people?

[00:32:13.100] – Robert Newman

Well, one thing I like about virtual desk is that they actually have-Not virtual, my out desk. Yeah. Number one, they’ve got a picture on their my business profile that is thousands of people, which they obviously flew in or flew to. Either they, the founder flew to the country of origin or they flew them in. Probably they flew to the company of origin. I think that that’s… And they have a mod con. They’re big. They’re big. I like that about them. They’ve got a good size. They’re probably expensive because they seem to have infrastructure. A lot of Anglo-saxons are in these pictures. That just means that most likely they’ve hired certain US resources to build structure so that you can get proper value out of a $1,988 per month resource because that’s what it requires. You have to have a lot of organizations, somebody running them, managing them, things like that. I like it. I like all that. They’ve also got some cool little clever tools on here. They’re leveraging it on their website. They’re giving you a job description tool for free. Not that you couldn’t just fire up ChatGPT, but still, they’re making an effort.

[00:33:23.250] – Robert Newman

I like them. They look completely different than the Russian company.

[00:33:29.780] – Jonathan Denwood

The Mafia, sorry. On to the… I’m not great fan. Well, I shouldn’t say that. I know Russian people are fine. It’s more their government. Taskbullet. This is a bit different because they are offering a price for European VA, but they also got a price for US VAs. Because they’re all offering similar services. But I thought this was interesting because they’re showing USN. What’s your thoughts about that?

[00:34:07.270] – Robert Newman

Well, I think that they’re doing… Number one, I like their pricing buckets, the way that they’re doing it. I’m liking how they’re call to action, which is literally you can just buy off their website. I could buy a $3,900 resource. Now, nobody’s probably going to buy a $3,900 resource directly off the website. But I do like some of the stuff. Task Bullet looks like another startup that’s probably US It’s a website that’s a little backwards. They’re not as big as Modcon, that third company on your list. They don’t have reviews, which the third company on your list did. The website is so so. So I’m not as excited about these guys now that I’m looking through the site, but I will say this, they look legit.

[00:34:55.260] – Jonathan Denwood

And the last one is a little bit different.

[00:34:59.220] – Robert Newman

Is it Oh, Brevity. Brevity. Which is the only company I ask you a question about, because Brevity is Ben Kinney. So Ben Kinney, as he has done so good of a job in, every single time… Ben Kinney has basically been building out companies for every single part of the real estate process. He bought CRMs and customer service people. He bought active rain. If he is buying everything, building up a process, and then he raised a billion dollars for a place because he keeps taking over every single part of the real estate process because I think he sees the weakness in the entire real estate industry, John, and he builds out little companies that service it. Now, whether or not that means that brivity VA Virtual Assistance is any good or not is another question. But of everybody on your list, I’d start here for sure. No doubt about it, because if Ben even has a half-asked, decent real estate person at the top of the stack here, then this company is going to be really successful.

[00:36:15.940] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, fair enough, because it starts… They got onboarding fee of 3. 50, and then part-time is 1,250 per month, full-time is 1,750. And then they project base that starts at 350.

[00:36:35.680] – Robert Newman

Well, yeah.

[00:36:37.900] – Jonathan Denwood

All right.

[00:36:38.740] – Robert Newman

Another fascinating thing is that the only company, one of their people, that they have on here is Calleigh Moulton. So you look up Calleigh Moulton and get transferred to her Instagram page. And honestly, she has much less to do with her business there than others. She’s focused on her lifestyle. I like that. I like that. That says a lot because if you’re going to hire a Virtual Assistant and build a business and process it, John, you will give up some of your income. You could do every job that is to be done, make a little bit more, and work a lot more. That is not how I would build a business. I would build a business to work less and make a decent amount. Hiring a virtual assistant is about working less and making a relatively good income. You need an assistant if you’re driven and want to make a million dollars. That’s 100% for sure. You could hire a virtual assistant because you’ll save a lot of money over an in-person assistant, unless you hire somebody with a real estate license. Then that person is running around helping you show homes and do the mechanics of your business, and then it makes sense to pay them 60, 80, $100,000, whatever it’s going to be.

[00:38:01.840] – Robert Newman

I would start with brevity, though.

[00:38:05.090] – Jonathan Denwood

All right, so we wrap it up. What’s your final thought?

[00:38:09.370] – Robert Newman

My final thoughts are where we started. This is a brilliant subject. Anybody looking to build a great business in today’s economy and world. You’re going to want to look over the shore. You’re going to want to outsource your assistant work, video, social media posts, writing blog posts, local marketing, and thumbnails. I can go on and on. I could think of 50 to 100 tasks, assuming that you don’t even want to get them into the transaction process because you could do that, too. You can get them in there. A lot of this work, John, will be done by AI relatively soon. One of the ways that I would hire virtual assistants, everybody listening to the show, hear me on this, I would find somebody who’s experienced with AI, who is already proficient with ChatGPT. Do not be scared to let somebody implement AI into your processes. That’s what I got, Jon. What do you think?

[00:39:07.140] – Jonathan Denwood

No, I was thrilled because you’re the one with the experience in this. I’ve got much more limited experience in this area. But I thought it was something different to discuss, and you would enjoy it. I think you’ve been…

[00:39:21.750] – Robert Newman

I did enjoy it. I did. I love talking about ways to improve the quality of somebody’s life, and if you get good at this, you’ll make much more money with much less effort. All right, so I’ve been Robert Newman. If you want to learn more about me, you can visit inboundrem. Com. Look at my About page or Services pages. If you’re interested in what we do, we build websites, do local SEO, help real estate agents generate leads, and do it all without signing you up for stuff that is outside your control or that you don’t own. John, how would you like people to research you, get in touch with you, and so on?

[00:40:01.170] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, thanks, Rob. Could you go over to Mail-Right.com? Could you have a look at our feature list? I think you’re going to be blown away. It’s a consistent feature list of great tools that will help you market yourself online. You can book a free chat and demo by going to the Melright website, right in the top navigation. It’ll probably be me who will do it. We can talk about it if that works for you. Like I say, it’s a great, easy-to-use CRM that costs under $50 a month. So great value. Back over to you, Rob.

[00:40:41.440] – Robert Newman

Beautiful. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your time today. We appreciate it. Please feel free to tune in next week when we have another interesting subject to propel your marketing forward.